Garth Brennan freely admits that he was never the greatest player on the field, but he found his stride as a coach in the NRL where he dedicated his career to the development of some of the greatest players in the game.
In a career marked by success often followed by bitter downfall, Brennan - a former Newcastle Knights junior - made his mark not just as a coach, but also as a police officer and later police prosecutor.
In a wide-ranging interview with host Barry Toohey for the Toohey's News podcast, Brennan looks back on his unique career and the rocky road that led him to where he is now.
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Season 2, Episode 10 will publish next Thursday.